Friday, June 29, 2007

What about this hotel again?

Well, seems as though the idea is catching on YET AGAIN...

Allen County Convention & Tourism Bureau delays proposal to help fund Harrison Square...

They want to see more numbers.. sound familiar?

What doesn't the government understand about full disclosure?


CareShare Network said...

Does the Libertarian Party of Allen County support the candidacy of Ron Paul since he was once a libertarian?

Jennifer Jeffrey, Chair LPAC said...

We are not endorsing a presidential candidate. We focus on local issues which we can influence.

We had several presidential candidates come to speak at our State Convention in May, here in Ft. Wayne.

Next Spring the National Convention will nominate the choice from the delegates.

Kody Tinnel said...

Congressman Ron Paul is essentially still a libertarian, just not with the Libertarian Party.

Jeff Pruitt said...

I don't want to hijack this thread but I'm not sure Paul is a libertarian as he has become quite a social conservative...

Robert Enders said...

Jeff, the thread has already been jacked, so let's see where it goes. Ron Paul is a social conservative, but he is also a state's rights guy. Now, most people believe in state's right so as long as it does not conflict with their own agenda. For example, Mark Souder believes in state's rights except when it comes to drug legalization. I think there are a lot of things that the federal government shouldn't let a state do. Ron Paul means it when he says it. He is pro-life, but he wants abortion regulated by the states, which would mean that Kansas might outlaw it, California will subsidize it, and New Jersey will make it manditory(just kidding). He is also opposed to gay marraige, as was President Clinton.
But Ron Paul also supports drug legalization on the federal level. Can you really call someone a social conservative if they oppose the Drug War and voted against the Patriot Act back when the Patriot Act was cool?

Jeff Pruitt said...

I'm certainly not going to argue with you if you want to claim him as one of your own. Although I must point out that Clinton was no libertarian so I'm not sure why comparing Paul's positions to Clinton's is relevant.

I think introducing a bill that prohibits the Supreme Court from ruling on abortion, marriage, etc is something a social conservative would do.

He strikes me as a libertarian that promotes libertarianism to advance social conservative doctrine (although not exclusively). I've met other libertarians that have a similar philosophy.

Robert Enders said...

Bill Clinton was also not a social conservative. Other than his stance on abortion, can you find any socially conservative position that Ron Paul has taken that President Clinton or the current Democratic frontrunners have not also taken?

A libertarian can have any social agenda he wants, its only how he promotes it that makes him a libertarian or not. For example, you can support abstinence so as long as you do not threaten sexually active adults with fines or imprisonment and do not offer to pay people to abstain with public funds.

Kody Tinnel said...

One may or may not think that Ron Paul is a true libertarian but he is the most libertarian of the major party candidates in the 2008 election. That is why I am supporting him.

Tim Zank said...

I would say he (Ron Paul) is the most Libertarian of the Republican candidates, but his propensity to pacify 9-11 "truthers" rules him out not only as a serious candidate, but also as a rational thinking person.

Kinda puts him out there with the other nutjobs.

LP Mike Sylvester said...

Hey im Zank:

Does that mean that all of the candidates other then Ron Paul are "nutjobs" since they say that Social Security can be fixed without significantly raising taxes or significantly cutting benefits?

Mike Sylvester

Tim Zank said...

No, Mike, That makes them liars.

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