tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11887973.post5730297410763065882..comments2023-11-02T04:58:34.355-04:00Comments on Libertarian Party of Allen County, Indiana: Indiana Cigarette TaxJeannette Jaquishhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/00226385515110623744noreply@blogger.comBlogger9125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11887973.post-83192348943282488892007-03-27T16:22:00.000-04:002007-03-27T16:22:00.000-04:00Since Indiana has the second highest smoking rate ...Since Indiana has the second highest smoking rate in the country, it will be a LONG time (as in long, long time) before cigarette tax revenues ever go down! <BR/><BR/>Increase the tax by $1.00 and you'll raise approximately $339.3 million. At that rate, you can dedicate $11-12 million and immunize TWICE as many kids 2 years old and under (as the Governor has proposed) and you'll be able to increase funding to help people stop smoking by $24 million. <BR/><BR/>The rest? It can go to help people get health care insurance. Why does that make sense? <BR/><BR/>We're already paying the freight in lost productivity and health care costs to the tune of $2.08 billion. What's more, 49 percent of those who are uninsured SMOKE.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11887973.post-63531911591772273112007-02-20T08:17:00.000-05:002007-02-20T08:17:00.000-05:00Andrew- What's really sad to me is that the averag...Andrew- What's really sad to me is that the average voter, and even most of the partisan Rs & Ds, who favor smaller government continue to go to their old parties, regardless of whether they stand for smaller government or not. <BR/><BR/>Voting has to be seen as more than a 'Prisoners Dilemma' problem, because in the two-party voting scenario, we're still winding up with ever more government.<BR/><BR/>Ds & Rs really are arguing over what kind of bigger government: Whose ox gets gored? Which special interest receives a transfer of wealth? <BR/><BR/>Now- how to convince the friends of smaller government to actually vote Libertarian...Mike Kolehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17573721231319244630noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11887973.post-14075437600561168212007-02-19T17:54:00.000-05:002007-02-19T17:54:00.000-05:00Mike Kole's onto something here. Most of the part...Mike Kole's onto something here. Most of the partisan R's and D's that I know are really arguing about what kind of big government they want instead of big vs small. <BR/><BR/>It's sad, really.Andrew Kadukhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11944123518135308325noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11887973.post-89861999238406903632007-02-19T08:58:00.000-05:002007-02-19T08:58:00.000-05:00Mike, I don't think either the Ds or Rs have too m...Mike, I don't think either the Ds or Rs have too many people saying they are for smaller government anymore. I think Rs are pleased to have the public believe they are for it. The results sure aren't being delivered.Mike Kolehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17573721231319244630noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11887973.post-63128364061575997892007-02-19T08:39:00.000-05:002007-02-19T08:39:00.000-05:00Debbie,I'm opposed to cigarette taxes. I made the ...Debbie,<BR/>I'm opposed to cigarette taxes. I made the cigarette tax increase an issue during my campaign. Regular readers of my blog and Mike's blog already know where I stand on the issue.<BR/><BR/>Instead of saying "Dittos" everytime I agree with Mike, I try to contribute something unique.Robert Endershttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15592475828737641009noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11887973.post-54262621505071518822007-02-18T10:11:00.000-05:002007-02-18T10:11:00.000-05:00This is where it gets sticky. Mike's suggestions ...This is where it gets sticky. Mike's suggestions actually don't put <I>anything</I> on the backs of smokers. Smokers' choices would put these things on their own backs. If a smoker said "I don't support tax breaks for small businesses, I object," they would simply have to quit smoking to stop paying into that revenue stream. The problem with this as-is seems more to be the fact that the government literally wishes people to continue smoking. <I>That</I> fact makes this seem less viable. Any time you see citizens being literally used as food for government programs, something is seriously flawed.Andrew Kadukhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11944123518135308325noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11887973.post-67290929335090028942007-02-18T09:59:00.000-05:002007-02-18T09:59:00.000-05:00If your two reasons are valid reasons, then it wil...If your two reasons are valid reasons, then it will also be valid to raise taxes on other things like certain foods that cause obesity and other health problems. If we go down this path, it will be a never ending call for item after item that is bad for one's health. Which may be good if in the end the whole system fails and we have to get government out of such things as health care.<BR/><BR/>I don't get your thinking about how the funds would be better spent on the 3 items listed. Why do you think it's valid to put those things on the backs of smokers? That's just exchanging one type of tax for another, with no call whatsoever on decreasing any spending.<BR/><BR/>DebbieDebbie H.https://www.blogger.com/profile/02209691050549648880noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11887973.post-85161865733003908892007-02-18T09:55:00.000-05:002007-02-18T09:55:00.000-05:00My point EXACTLY. If you tax the bejesus out of ci...My point EXACTLY. If you tax the bejesus out of cigarettes, with the ultimate goal of getting people to STOP buying cigarettes, are you not actually planning for the revenue stream to cease?<BR/>Now that's planning ahead isn't it?<BR/><BR/>Brilliant, just brilliant.Tim Zankhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14619436377992741061noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11887973.post-16548844300038587972007-02-18T09:23:00.000-05:002007-02-18T09:23:00.000-05:00Ken Gividen pointed out that if this tax does succ...Ken Gividen pointed out that if this tax does succeed in discouraging smoking, then it will cause future revenue shortfalls if the State becomes dependent on the tax to pay for Medicare.Robert Endershttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15592475828737641009noreply@blogger.com